Andrew Farrell

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  Easter Thought: Was the ransom price really paid?

  by Andrew Farrell in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses, and indeed many christians, believe jesus christ is their redeemer.. the watchtower society sets forth a specific formula for this doctrine:-.

  adam, a pefect man, sinned and lost everlasting life.

  we inherited his sin, and so we conitnue to pay the price of death.. jesus, a perfect man, was sinless and in giving his life, gained back our chance at everlasting life.

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  Andrew Farrell

  Jehovah's Witnesses, and indeed many christians, believe Jesus Christ is their redeemer.

  The Watchtower Society sets forth a specific formula for this doctrine:-

  Adam, a pefect man, sinned and lost everlasting life. We inherited his sin, and so we conitnue to pay the price of death.

  Jesus, a perfect man, was sinless and in giving his life, gained back our chance at everlasting life. He paid the ransom, and eliminated the need for us to die for our sins.

  So, the obvious question arises:-

  WHY DO WE STILL DIE? If Jesus has paid the price, if what Adam lost has been restored, if we have truly been redeemed and the ransom price paid (and presented to Jehovah according to the Bible...) then why do we still die? Why are we still living in 'sin' 2,000 years later?

  (Curious to see how people who believe this doctrine respond...)
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  Whatever happened to the Dirtclod.com issue?

  by Elsewhere in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  has the wts called off their legal dogs?

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  Andrew Farrell

  Happy to host your site, or mirror it... or whatever you need. We've got servers in the USA and in Australia... and we control them 100%, so no ISP is going to shut them off.

  Just say the word here, or email me at [email protected].

  Cheers,
  Andy
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  Do not call... an idea + information required.

  by Andrew Farrell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does anyone know the official wts process, and recognition of formal, or informal requests, to not be called upon?

  what is required?

  if a person contacted bethel, how often do they notify the local congregation of a request?

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  Does anyone know the official WTS process, and recognition of formal, or informal requests, to not be called upon? What is required? If a person contacted Bethel, how often do they notify the local congregation of a request? Is there an email address you could write to, or do you have to write a letter?

  Also, is there any legal basis for their being required to uphold such a request? In USA or Australia?

  I know about the Do Not Call web site in the UK. I'm looking at something that could be much more effective than this. For a start, it should be free, not paid. Second, it should be self perpetuating.

  In order for the service to notify (automatically hopefully) the WTS of a Do Not Call request, you should have to recommend the service to 2 or 3, or more, other people. They in turn would be notified by email, and so on, it could build up considerable momentum in time, as these things do, and result in a huge number of people requesting a do not call status.

  If the WTS has noone to call on, it will get hard to get rid of magazines, and much harder to preach - when I was in, people were never too excited about street witnessing.

  The end result could hit them where it counts - $$$$. Furthermore, the referral campaign could help educate people that just don't want to be woken at 9.30am on a Saturday or Sunday morning abut the dangers of the WTS.

  Thoughts?
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  HELP I NEED YOU ALL!!!

  by bj in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  can anyone please tell me the latest official position of the wbts on family members who are disfellowshiped or disassociated.

  (please quote wbts literature or boe letters as i don't have the latest).. why all of this?

  this week i met a wonderful couple who are being shunned by their own 28 year old daughter.

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  Was that the WT or AWAKE?
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  Will the Beast turn on WTS?

  by Pureheart in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many of you have said that the wts is babylon the great and feel that the prophecy in revelation will be fulfilled on the wts.

  the book of revelation says that this babylon the great will go down into destruction because the wild beast will turn on her.

  it also said that god will put that thought into the wild beast to carry out this action.. that is why in one day her plagues will come, death and mourning and famine, and she will be completely burned with fire, because jehovah god, who judged her, is strong.. if the wts is the babylon the great of the book of revelation then this will be its demise.

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  Who put the cross reference there?
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  JW Missionaries were/are flying free on UN flights

  by Andrew Farrell in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  according to a jw contact i have who just visited an asia pacific country, jw missionaries have been permitted to fly free aboard un flights.

  can anyone else check into/confirm this... i am currently trying with my sources to get more information on this.. could be there were some financial benefits to un association after all!.

  - andy

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  According to a JW contact I have who just visited an Asia Pacific country, JW missionaries have been permitted to fly free aboard UN flights. Can anyone else check into/confirm this... I am currently trying with my sources to get more information on this.

  Could be there were some financial benefits to UN association after all!

  - Andy
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  UNITED NATIONS , NGO's and WTBS

  by MacHislopp in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  following the link given by kent,.

  i have several observation to make:.

  (from the link : http://www.un.org/moreinfo/ngolink/brochure.htm).

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  Andrew Farrell

  What happened to that fabulous post, just before the board went down, about how the UN had funed the WT in India?

  - Andy
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  JW Response to NGO/UN info

  by Andrew Farrell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  following is the response of a jw to the information regarding the un/ngo status of the watchtower society.

  it seems not all will see with clarity the hypocritical position of the organisation in this matter:.

  andrew,.

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  Andrew Farrell

  Greetings,

  Following is the response of a JW to the information regarding the UN/NGO status of the WatchTower Society. It seems not all will see with clarity the hypocritical position of the organisation in this matter:

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  Andrew,
  
  It is not the asking questions that is the problem. You are twisting the facts.
  
  Yes, the Society is registered with the UN. It does not make them a supporter of the UN, it is a requirement that they register so they can be protected by the human rights umbrella of the UN. Without the UN acknowledging the Society, they can accomplish very little and have little protection from world powers who seek to crush the Society. For example, with witnesses being persecuted throughout the world, by being registered with the UN, the Society can appeal to the UN to use their 'status' to protect the witnesses human rights. This is a fundamental right under the UN's human rights legislation.
  
  Just as the Society is registered as legal corporations in lands throughout the world. Your argument would have it that by taking this action, we support the governments in these countries. The real truth is that we must be registered by law. Just as we must pay taxes by law, obey the law of the land, when it does not contravene Gods own laws. By being registered, the government acknowledges we exist.
  
  You know all this Andrew, and I am not telling you anything new. Like all apostates, you twist the real truth.
  
  In my view, you are obviously not serious about wanting help. I suggest if the Elders did not want to help, that your actions or attitude spoke volumes as to your real motivation.
  
  If you put the same amount of research into finding the answers as you have put in to finding these 'flaws', you would not need to seek anyone's 'help' as you put it. I think you are misguided, not confused.
  
  The tone of your first email was not to seek help, it was to cause doubt. Apostates are the same everywhere Andrew, there is nothing new in your actions that is not evident with just about every other apostate I have known.
  
  As to writing to me and suggesting that you are doing me a favour, please, don't bother doing it again.
  
  All the information you presented is not new. Put in it's real light though, there is nothing wrong with the Society being registered as a NGO, based on the facts.
  
  Just as we do not vote, there is nothing stopping us going to our local MP and asking assistance for a problem we may have in the community. By acknowledging they are elected members of government, does not mean we are part of their politics.
  
  I will not reply to any more emails. It is not for me to help you in this situation. Ring the elders and ask them for help. As long as you are genuine and want to get back to the truth, they will help I am sure.
  
  Please do not write again, unless you are reinstated.
  
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